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Governor Highlights Economic Benefits of Props 1C & 46 Funding Allocations
DIRECTOR
JACOBS: Well, good morning,
everyone. Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm Lynn Jacobs, the director
of the Department of Housing and Community Development and we are thrilled today
to be making our first awards under the most innovative programs under the
housing bond, infill and transit-oriented development. And we are especially
delighted to have Governor Schwarzenegger here to address you today, so without
further ado, Governor? (Applause)
GOVERNOR
SCHWARZENEGGER: Well, thank you very
much, Lynn, for
that wonderful introduction and that long introduction. (Laughter) Very nice.
But anyway, I was really
looking forward to coming here today and to be part of this great celebration.
And I'm thrilled that the state is investing $47 million in Proposition 1C bond
funds to help develop the railroad. And this is, of course, a spectacular
project and I love when we can support projects with such historic importance.
With the Transcontinental Railroad completed, America's ambitious journey across the frontier
culminated right here in Sacramento's downtown railyard. And now, after
years of challenges and tremendous cooperation by everyone here, that is up on
this stage and everyone that is here in this hall, I think the railyard will
shine just as brightly in the future.
These bonds will help
transform Sacramento's historic riverfront, they will
support affordable housing for families and seniors and they will beef up
infrastructure in an area with easy access to public transportation. All told,
this 240-acre development is one of the nation's largest urban infill projects,
with plans for 12,000 housing units, parks, museums, offices and shops. And it
will ease the burden on our freeways, because there is smart planning that went
on here. We're not building a shopping mall down the road on this side and then
a housing development over here and maybe an entertainment center down the road.
No, this has all come together into one project.
And it will boost the
economy with an estimated 2,800 jobs, from construction alone and 19,000
permanent jobs. When it's fully built out the city says that the construction
will have created an economic impact of $5.7 billion and a lasting impact of
$2.7 billion annually.
The economic stimulus is
exactly why we have been pushing these projects and why we have been pushing out
our bond money as quickly as possible and that's why I recently also signed AB
1252, to accelerate the process even more. In fact, the Township 9 development
just down the street and the Triangle Project across the river in West Sacramento received a combined total of $25.5 million
as a result of this economic stimulus effort authorized under AB 1252. So I'm
working with the legislators now so that we push out more money from our
Infrastructure Bond money to create more jobs and to stimulate the economy even
more.
So I congratulate
everyone here in the Sacramento region for this fantastic project
and for this great news. And I think this investment will honor Sacramento's past and
enhance the capital city's future also. So thank you very much again. I'm
excited, because for too long I've been driving by this area here and I have
said to myself, "When are they going to develop this area here? It looks ugly.
We can do a great job here." And now I think that we are on our way to do a
great job and to build one of the best projects.
So with that, I want to
say thank you again. And I want to bring out Senator Cogdill to say a few words
and then after that I want to come back, answer some questions that the media
has and also make some statements about the fires and to give you an update on
the fires and the heat conditions. Thank you. Senator Cogdill, please.
(Applause)
SENATOR
COGDILL: Thank you, Governor.
Thank you all for being here today. This is an exciting day. This is one of the
things that we certainly look forward to, those of us that serve in the public
service arena, to be able to come out and do something as positive and be part
of something as important as this project.
And I certainly want to
commend the Governor for his vision and foresight and his determination to see
to it that this state moves forward on a number of areas relating to
infrastructure development that we have so sorely neglected for so long. So we
certainly owe the Governor, I think, a great deal of appreciation and gratitude
for, again, the hard work that he's done in this area. Governor, thank you.
(Applause)
The Governor mentioned
AB 1252, which was certainly a bipartisan effort, to get $300 million worth of
stimulus out into the economy when, again, it's needed so greatly right now. We
were just very pleased, as Republicans, to be part of that effort and are glad
to see that there will be about $150 million that will go for transit
improvements that are so, again, important and needed and have been long
overlooked in this state; things like grade crossings and monies for local
government to do a lot of the needed road work that we all experience on a daily
basis, so we're very pleased to see that.
And as the Governor
pointed out, we continue to make bipartisan efforts to work and try to find ways
to get more of this money out and get it to work. This is a great time to do
these improvements; interest rates are at their lowest. We all know what's going
on as it relates to the economy and the difficulty in the employment sector and
the need to provide jobs. Bids are coming in, they're telling me, well below
what they were originally anticipated. So it's a great time to do this work for
a number of reasons and again, I'm just very proud to be a small part of it and
glad to be here today at this very historic moment.
I want to now introduce
someone that's certainly no stranger to any of you, a good friend of mine, I'm
pleased to say and certainly one of Sacramento's favorite sons, Senator Darrell
Steinberg. Darrell? (Applause)
SENATOR
STEINBERG: Thank you very much,
Senator Cogdill, for your nice introduction. I want to bring up my other
partner, if you will, in all things Sacramento when it comes to the legislature,
Assemblymember Dave Jones, to share the stage and make a few comments.
(Applause)
Let me thank the
Governor, as Senator Cogdill did, for your outstanding leadership in helping
push through these infrastructure bonds in 2006 and in making sure that your
administration is doing everything you can to get this money out quickly for the
benefit of the community and the benefit of the people.
I want to also thank
Senator Perata -- who is not here today, but I know was absolutely a driving
force behind much of this -- Senator Cogdill, Speaker Emeritus Núñez, who was
speaker at the time and Mayor Fargo, our city leader, who has positioned the
city very, very well when it comes to getting the right projects funded.
This is an exciting time
for the Sacramento region. And what this means to all
of us -- to me, you can boil it down to three things. First of all, for
Sacramento and
for other regions throughout the state, downtown revitalization and housing
downtown is more than just a cliché. This represents a reality. Riverfront
development is more than just a dream. It's going to happen right here on the
banks of the Sacramento, in the cities of West
Sacramento and Sacramento. And economic stimulus, which is so
central to helping alleviate our lagging economy, the state of California -- despite all
of our other problems, natural and manmade -- despite our problems, we are
showing that government can be a catalyst for economic stimulus in the right
way.
And so I'm thrilled to
be here and to represent a city and a region that is on the forefront of showing
how to get it done and showing how to get it done right. Congratulations to
everyone.
Before we bring up our
great mayor of the city of Sacramento, Heather Fargo, I want to ask
Assemblymember Jones to make a few comments.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER
JONES: Thank you very much. If
you look around you in this space you can feel and sense the history. You can
visualize the great locomotives being built here, the train cars being
assembled, the tracks being forged. This was a center of commerce and industry
that knit the nation together and helped make us the great nation we are
today.
But that day has passed.
Here we're celebrating a new day that's dawning, a day of reinvestment in sites
like this to make them active and vibrant again, to make them places where
people can live, shop, dine, have jobs. This is a great day for Sacramento. Not only this
project, but the T9 Project, the Broadway Lofts, the Triangle just across the
river, the hotel in Woodland, all of these projects represent a tremendous
opportunity and also represent a great deal of work on the part of those that
represent us in all levels of government.
I want to join in
thanking the Governor for his fantastic leadership, both in supporting these
projects, but also being a champion for the bonds that the legislature passed
two years ago. I want to thank as well the Senate and Assembly leadership,
Senator Steinberg, who has been a tremendous advocate for these projects,
Senator Perata, Assemblywoman Karen Bass and our Republican leader in the State
Assembly, Mike Villines and the Senate leader in the Senate, Dave Cogdill. And
of course our mayor and city council. Projects like this don't just happen, they
require a great deal of planning and forethought and Mayor Heather Fargo and our
council have taken the steps necessary to position this city to do as well as it
has done in obtaining this assistance.
And finally, the
developers who get it, who understand the importance of making the risky
investments in sites like this, Thomas Enterprises, T9, Mark Freidman and his
partners across the river and others. And then, our community. Sacramento understands the
value of these sorts of investments, they're willing to support it, they're
willing to pay for it and they're eager to see it happen. Congratulations to one
and all. Thanks very much. (Applause)
Mayor Heather Fargo.
(Applause)
MAYOR
FARGO: Good morning to
everyone. I also want to start by adding my very sincere thank you to our
Governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger. His vision in reinvesting in California and
understanding the significance of infrastructure and the significance of the
state, not only dealing with transportation infrastructure but flood protection
and others as well, really understanding the role that the state has to play in
helping cities across the state get their feet back on the ground and move
forward into the next economy. So Governor, thank you, thank you, thank you.
In terms of the projects
that we're here to celebrate today, it's hard to say enough good things about
them. Where we are right now, we're standing on the ultimate anti-sprawl
project. We are standing at the site of, between this project and Township 9, of
almost 15,000 housing units. Those people will be able to work right here in the
Railyards or along Richards
Boulevard, or they can walk to the Capitol. Maybe
someday the Governor's mansion itself will be on the top floor of a loft here in
the Richards
Boulevard area, or if you'd rather have a view of the
American
River we could do it over
by Township 9.
But this particular
project, the project that we're here to celebrate today, the Railyards Project
and Township 9, in addition to the project across the river, the Triangle
Project and a little further down the Broadway Lofts, all of these projects are
urban infill projects. And what they are is, they are projects which help us to
reduce our carbon footprint, they help us to build a city which is more
sustainable, they help us to give people the opportunity to walk to work, to
walk to dining, walk to entertainment and have a very wonderful lifestyle right
here in the city of Sacramento and the city of West Sacramento.
So I want to thank the
senators, particularly our senator, Darrell Steinberg and the Assemblymembers
and in particular Dave Jones, because they have really worked with us. We have
put together a public-private-public-public partnership project here that
includes the federal government, the state government, the city of Sacramento, as well as the
private investors. And Thomas Enterprises and T9 and Nehemiah and everyone else
involved really has done us a great service by providing projects that were
incredibly competitive on a statewide level, because these are the right
projects to do at the right time in the right place. So thank you one and all.
(Applause)
And with that, I would
like to introduce the next speaker, who is Robert Rivinius. He is the president
and CEO of the California Building Industry Association and after all, this is
about building future neighborhoods and future cities. Welcome. (Applause)
ROBERT
RIVINIUS: Thank you, Mayor Fargo.
In a state where it's very difficult to build affordable housing, this is
certainly a major achievement. We've lost over 200,000 construction jobs in the
state in the last two years, so this will put many of the people back to work.
We too would like to thank the Governor for his vision and the legislature for
putting these bonds on the ballot. And certainly, let's not forget the voters of
California,
who approved them. Couldn't do it without them. We also know that the 17,000
Californians who will benefit from the housing all of the bonds will provide
will be very grateful.
With that, I'd like to
introduce Danny Curtin, who is the director of the California Conference of
Carpenters. Danny? (Applause)
DANNY
CURTIN: Okay, that's good to
hear. Thank you very much, Bob. You know, this site -- aside from the incredible
dignitaries up here, you have a fabulous leadership team in this town and of
course a great governor -- but this site itself is a fabulous site. We've been
doing these infrastructure-type press conferences around the state, usually in a
transit area or a certain kind of thing. But this site has a way of bringing it
all together in a way that nothing else has that we've done up to this point.
There's a little park
right around the corner over here, a little jewel in the middle of Sacramento, the Caesar Chavez
Park and in that park
there's a statue, long forgotten, of a guy named -- I think it's A.K. Stevens.
And when you look at it, it's wonderful, you have no clue what it is. It turns
out that A.K. Stevens was the master mechanic in the railroad yards here and I
believe it was at the turn of the century.
It also turns out that
this was the largest employer west of the Mississippi. This was the economic engine of
the West Coast that really changed the nature of not only the nation but of
California, as
Dave Jones mentioned. And A.K. Stevens was a master mechanic, which I'm proud
of. He was a union member and a union leader. But he also became a civic leader
and in a way combines the kind of labor-management relationships and
public-private relationships that the Governor constantly talks about and is so
important to actually building the future of California.
The other part about
this place that I think makes it so ideal is that it really was the hub of the
economic activity that brought people to California, the diverse community that
is California. And it was really, you know, the jewel of the area. What's
happening now is we're doing it in a similar way, rebuilding this particular
site in a way that also will make it a jewel and also will make it an image for
the future. We're talking about a hub for transit of all kinds, where you come
into this area and you can get from here to anywhere. You're combining the
housing elements, you're combining retail, you're combining the whole
public-private domain of what would be an urban center anywhere in America.
And I have to say, the
Governor's guidance and leadership and vision at the state level has been
fantastic, but the people you've had here over the years -- and it's
interesting, we have an interesting group here -- Senator Steinberg, who is -- I
don't know if I should mention, the pro tem elect for the State Senate, which is
a pretty important position. Okay and Assemblyman Dave Jones and Mayor Fargo
have had a vision of redevelopment for this area -- not just this spot, but the
city itself.
And I'm often fond of
saying it's really nice when a plan comes together, because it happens so rarely
that a real plan is put together and thought through and it actually comes
together. This did not come easily. The mayor and the city council have been
working on a plan for this area for decades. And Mayor Fargo has been dogged and
persistent and yet yielding when it needed to be to put a deal together, but
keeping the character of Sacramento the way Sacramento likes it, which is an
urban center that will be a center, as it was 100 years ago and 50 years ago, at
the same time keeping the character of the neighborhoods in place. This will be
a fabulous example of that.
The last thing I want to
say is we've been working with the administration. I represent the Carpenters
Union; we're always thrilled when we hear about jobs. But it's not just jobs,
it's the kind of jobs. The Governor has pushed a vision for the future, you've
heard about the infrastructure, the $37 billion Infrastructure Bonds and more on
top of that. This is an example of it. But it's not just that. More importantly
for the future, public-private partnerships involved in infrastructure, involved
in developing the community, is going to be critical. The Governor and the
leadership that you see behind us, both Republican and Democrat, have been very,
very forceful in pushing that idea.
And I can't help but
link it to one more thing that we've talking about quite a bit, since it was a
rail center. What we're looking forward to in California is a high-speed rail that will move people from
this center here, one of the wonderful centers in California, to L.A. within hours. (Applause) The Governor has
been very supportive and we're going to talk about it.
So, having said all
that, I want to say something very, very simple to end it out. This is not a red
state or a blue state; this is a Golden
State and it's time to get the red and
the blue back together so that everybody works together and it's a Golden State. This is an example of what can be
done. Senator Cogdill mentioned the bill to the Governor. There were no negative
votes. There is a way to do this. The press plays on the differences, but in
reality government is what this is all about. So it's really a pleasure to be
here and be a part of it.
I want to thank, of
course, all the leaders, but now I have the pleasure of introducing Suheil
Totah, who is the vice-president of Thomas Enterprises. See how quickly we
forget? Thank you very much. (Applause)
SUHEIL
TOTAH: Thank you. Thank you,
Danny, for the nice introduction. First, I want to start by also thanking the
Governor for his leadership in supporting Proposition 1C and the other
Infrastructure Bonds. Without those infrastructure dollars, projects like the
Railyards and other projects in the state would not take place. It's really
critical to have those initial public infrastructure dollars to get these
projects going.
On behalf of Thomas
Enterprises, I'm delighted to welcome you here today to the Railyards and to the
historic paint shop. The paint shop is one of many buildings here at the
Railyards that we plan on restoring. This one in particular we plan on
converting into a public market, very similar to the Ferry Building in San Francisco or Faneuil Hall. And don't worry,
there will be air conditioning.
We stand here, as many
people have said, on the shoulders of those brave pioneers who came before us,
including the heroic contributions of the Chinese community in the building of
the Transcontinental Railroad, which started right here at this site, as well as
the founders of the Central Pacific that owned this site and built the
Railyards, including the former governor, Leland Stanford. The Railyards was
once the heartbeat of the region, employing thousands of people and was the
economic engine for the west.
Today, the Railyard sits
abandoned in the heart of downtown Sacramento with virtually no infrastructure,
beautiful artifacts that are slowly deteriorating and an economic engine that
has sat idle for years. This site, equal in size to the central business
district, will create 40 new downtown blocks for the city of Sacramento, for the region
and for the state. But now, today, with modem-day pioneers, including the
perseverance of our company founder, Stan Thomas, the partnership with the city
of Sacramento,
our partnership with the state and the leadership of this Governor, the
Railyards will be reborn. Jobs will be created and the Railyards will once again
become the economic engine and will move into high gear.
After a seven-year
journey for our company in working on this project, we can now together begin to
transform this site and more importantly the region, into that first-tier region
it deserves to be as the capital of the great state of California. Thank you
very much. (Applause)
I would like to now
introduce Scott Syphax, the president and CEO of Nehemiah Corporation of
America. (Applause)
SCOTT
SYPHAX: Thank you, Suheil. It
is, as Suheil and others have said, an historic day for Sacramento, because for
those of us who have worked in this community for decades, to try and revitalize
this central area and to bring life to the region in the way it should be, this
is the first day of the rest of our lives.
I wanted to say first,
thanks to Governor Schwarzenegger for his leadership and that of my own
delegation, Senator Steinberg, Assemblyman Jones, the mayor of Sacramento,
Heather Fargo, the city council, Rob Fong, who spent a whole day sitting in
chairs with us in Los Angeles recently and also the local leadership and my
business partner Steve Goodwin of Township 9 and Johan Otto and the leadership
of the river district that the Railyards and Township 9 sit within.
The jobs and the housing
and the economic vitality of the Railyards is going to be complemented by
Township 9, which is a 3,000 unit housing and mixed-use development which will
have a million square feet of office, 150,000 square feet of retail and is going
to be the first stop of light rail MOS-1 -- Minimum Operating Segment 1, for you
techies -- on the way to building the DNA Line out to the airport.
We're excited because of
the fact that not only are these dollars going to be the catalyst to kick start
a new, robust downtown, but we're also excited because of the fact that it does
really embody the type of public-private partnership and bipartisan work that
can be done in making California work. And so I want to applaud the legislative,
gubernatorial leadership, our local leadership and say let's roll up our
sleeves, let's get started, let's start knocking things down so we can start
building them up. Thank you very much. And I'd like to turn this over to Lynn
Jacobs. (Applause)
DIRECTOR
JACOBS: Thank you, everyone.
Before I bring the Governor back up to answer questions, as he kindly offered to
do, I'd like to introduce my colleague, Will Kempton, from the Department of
Transportation. I'd like to also introduce Ruth Coleman, from the Department of
Parks. Ruth? And Maureen, where are you, from DTSC -- there you are. Maureen
Gorsen from DTSC. (Applause)
The reason I'm
introducing them, because I could introduce everyone in the audience -- we're
all important people here today -- is that they also are investing state funds
in the Railyards Project and we're working collaboratively on the
infrastructure, parks and brown fields cleanup on this project as well as
housing, although today we're here to celebrate housing and infrastructure in
particular.
So I'd like to bring the
Governor back up to answer questions and he's going to update us on the fires
also.
GOVERNOR
SCHWARZENEGGER: Thank you very much. Let
me just bring you up to date on the fires. As you know, that we have fires all
over the state of California; there were approximately 1,700
fires that burned all over the state because of lightning. And they have been
contained, there are now 300 or so fires left. But last night we found out that
the fires flared up again in Butte County and we continue battling those
blazes and those fires. We have evacuated now 10,000 people that had to be
evacuated, 68 patients at the Feather River Hospital also had to be evacuated. And of
course there are shelters for animals and people that are up and running in
those areas.
We have so far of the
BTU Fire, the Lighting Complex, there are 49,000 acres that have burned total so
far, 40 percent of them have been contained, 60 buildings have been destroyed
and 3,800 structures are threatened right now. We have 2,773 personnel,
firefighters, fighting those fires, 313 fire engines are working there. So far
10 firefighters have been injured and we hope they recover very quickly.
I think it is very
important that we put all the resources in that area because of the very dry
weather that we have right now and the high temperatures, so those fires
anywhere in the state could flare up again, so it is very important that we pay
close attention to that.
And I think it's very
important also for people to know that, because of the tremendous high
temperatures, that everyone should be very cautious. They should drink enough
water, they should have their rest, stay in cool places. Especially the people
that are working outside, it's important that they have their rest periods and
they have places to go where there's shade and they drink enough water. I think
it's also important for people to look at their neighbors. We have a lot of
vulnerable citizens that are around. We need to check on them, we need to check
on animals all the time to make sure that everyone is safe. So we have to help
each other.
I also want to urge the
people of California to conserve energy. Do everything
that you can, because there is a tremendous demand on our energy and on our
power plants right now because of the high temperature and to put your
thermostat at 78 or turn off your air conditioning when you're not at home. It's
very important that you conserve energy.
So with that I would
like to open it up to questions, please.
QUESTIONS/ANSWERS:
GOVERNOR:
Yes?
QUESTION:
You mentioned the Transcontinental Railroad in your
remarks and the importance of infrastructure, so my question is also about
infrastructure, a ballot measure coming up in November, Prop 1, as you know, a
high-speed rail system that would take people at high speed from San Francisco
to Los Angeles. Is that good public policy? Do you support it? Is it something
that you think Californians should endorse in November?
GOVERNOR:
I think that it is one of those projects that Democrats
and Republicans again can get behind. I think that we need high-speed rail. If
you think that right now our trains in America are running at the same speed
as 100 years ago, that's not progress. I think we can do much better than that.
There's no reason why Japan
and China and
Germany and France
and all those places have high-speed rail and we don't. I think California is always
cutting edge. I think we should be out there, we should be the first state in
the United
States to build a high-speed rail.
I think that the bond
package is a good beginning. The important thing is, though, that we have follow
up and that we have all of the tools available so we can do the public-private
partnerships that Danny Curtin has talked about just earlier. I think that's the
way we can get this built as quickly as possible, because it needs approximately
$40 billion to get this project done and the bond measure is only $10 billion.
But I think with a public-private partnership we can do it, so I'm very
enthusiastic about it. I'm 100 percent behind it, yes.
Yes, please. Can we turn
the mike on?
QUESTION:
There we go.
GOVERNOR:
There we go.
QUESTION:
That hasn't happened to me in while.
GOVERNOR:
No, exactly.
QUESTION:
For those of us who are covering the state budget, I'm
interested in your initial reaction to the Conference Report that was released
last night, specifically the large package of tax increases. Is there a way out
of this problem without raising some taxes?
GOVERNOR:
Well, first of all, I think I'm very pleased that the
negotiations are moving along. I have met this week with all of the leaders,
Democratic leaders and Republican leaders. I think they are meeting regularly
and they are working on it, to see how it can be done. As you know, in my budget
I have proposed additional revenues through our lottery, to take future earnings
and to securitize them. And I think that's one way of going, but they have maybe
another way of looking.
So I think that's the
good process now, that Democrats and Republicans -- we have handed in our budget
proposal, so everyone knows what mine is. But now the Democrats and Republicans
have to work it out and I hope that they work as quickly as possible, because we
are running out of time. I think they know that and they are making an effort,
so I think the key thing is that they continue working at that.
We have to all recognize
that compromise has to be made on both sides in order to get this done, because
there are some that have recommendations that are more to the right, others have
recommendations that are to the left. I think the action is in the center, like
I always said and I think that's what I'm looking for and I think this is the
only way we can really serve the people of California.
Yeah,
please.
QUESTION:
It sounds like you're receptive, at least, to some of
these ideas that the Democrats were talking about, such as raising income taxes
for the upper tax bracket. Are you receptive at least to some of these ideas
that they proposed last night?
GOVERNOR:
Well, as you know, that since I have proposed my January
budget on January 10th I have said that everything is on the table, that I have
an open mind and we have to be open minded to all the different ideas. I don't
want to exclude anything. I want to have Republicans, who are working very hard
to fix the budget, I want to have the Democrats, who are working very hard to
fix the budget, bring all their proposals, put it on the table. There are a lot
of creative minds over there at the Capitol. You know, we have had some answers
and we think great answers, to find a solution. But they have maybe additional
answers and ways of resolving the budget, so I want to be open minded to all of
this.
Yes?
QUESTION:
I have a question about energy conservation. A number
of states and local governments, states like Utah, have implemented flex work schedules for
their employees, four-day workweeks. It cuts down on gas use for employees and
energy use in state buildings if they're only there four days a week. Should
California be
doing more to move in that direction, or is the state moving in that
direction?
GOVERNOR:
Well, we have been talking about that. But I think that
the people of California have responded really well each
year when we have asked them to conserve energy. Within a short period of time
we have seen energy use being reduced by 5 percent and I think that's very
helpful. So I think that the people of California are very responsible. They know
that we have a short supply of energy and they respond very quickly to that. So
this is why I urged the people of California to conserve energy. Now is a very
important time because of the high temperatures. But we are looking at
alternative ways of also conserving energy.
QUESTION:
You've said everything is on the table with regard to
the budget, but in the past you've also said you've been against new tax
increases. The Democratic budget has a number of tax increases. Are you saying
that you're now open, or changing your position of no new tax
increases?
GOVERNOR:
No. You know, I have always been against tax increases.
But I always want to keep everything on the table, because you cannot go into
negotiations and say don't talk to me about this, don't talk to me about that.
You have to be open minded and that's the only way you can get a compromise
done. So I'm open minded but I'm against tax increases. All
right?
Yes, thank you very
much. Thank you all. (Applause)





